Springfield jews-Liar -- Joos quickly convicted on weapons charges -- Jan 13, 10
Springfield jews-Liar -- Joos quickly convicted on weapons charges -- Jan 13, 10
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http://www.pastorlindstedt.org/blog/?p=842
It took jurors nine minutes of deliberation to convict Robert Joos, 56, of two federal weapons charges after half a day of talk on cursing, religion and Captain Chesley B. "Sully" Sullenberger.
Joos was found guilty of being a felon in possession of firearms and a felon in possession of explosives. He faces a maximum of 20 years in federal prison and up to a $500,000 fine.
He was arrested June 25 during the execution of a search warrant on his 200-acre property in McDonald County.
Federal officials with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives had been investigating Joos after they discovered his connection with a pair of men who had bombed a diversity office in Scottsdale, Ariz.
Joos was the first person Dennis and Daniel Mahon, the bombers, called after placing the bomb addressed to the director of the diversity office in 1994. The director, a black male, and two others were injured in the blast. The Mahons are awaiting trial.
Joos took the stand as the defense's only witness on Tuesday, the second day of his trial.
He described his apocalyptic religious views and his time at the Air Force Academy as a classmate of Sullenberger, the now-famous pilot who landed a plane in the Hudson River.
Joos was calm until he was questioned by U.S. district attorney James Kelleher.
When asked if he thought he still had an IQ of 156, Joos said, "I've lost a few points, but not enough not to know what these bastards have been doing to me," referring to the federal government.
Joos said the government has been persecuting him because of his religious beliefs. "It's been 30 years of this, and I'm tired of this crap," he said.
Joos called himself a Christian Israelite and a Nazarite.
He denied being a white supremacist, despite his connections with the Mahons.
He said his Nazarite beliefs mean that he can't cut his hair or drink alcohol and has to wear certain clothes described in the Bible.
On Tuesday, Joos appeared in his clothing, which had fringes on the side seams. Joos had to appear in the jail's orange jumpsuit Monday because he didn't have his clothes.
When asked to swear in before his testimony, he said he could not because biblical law prevented him from swearing. The word "affirm" was used instead.
Kelleher said it was the government's opinion that Joos' religious views are a front.
"Maybe you noticed Mr. Joos couldn't swear, but 15 minutes later he called the government a bunch of bastards," he said during his closing arguments. "The church is a way Mr. Joos gets to do what he wants."
Joos later clarified that biblical law did not allow him to swear, but did not say anything against cussing.
His attorney, Darryl Johnson, acknowledged that Joos' religious beliefs might be bizarre to some.
"You might not like Bob's demeanor, Bob's dress, Bob's hair -- I don't like Bob's hair, it kept getting in my way during this trial," Johnson said during his closing statements. "You might not like his religious beliefs -- he's very devout -- but you cannot convict on religion."
Joos spent most of his testimony refuting what an undercover agent with the ATF had testified.
Tristan Moreland, or Jimmy as Joos knew him, was undercover as a weapons dealer who was interested in Joos' compound.
Joos said he was trying to recruit for the church.
Moreland testified on Monday that the two, along with another uncover agent and a civilian informant, talked about guns and explosives.
Joos said he gave Moreland bomb-making instructions so that he could later turn Moreland in if the bomb was detonated.
Agents testified in court they found 15 guns, mostly long hunting rifles, more than 19,000 round of ammunition and various bomb-making materials on the compound.
"We're talking about the amount of ammunition you might find in Bass Pro's showroom," Kelleher said.
All of the guns and ammunition were found in a building the prosecution referred to as the residence, but Joos said was part church office and part storage area.
"People store their stuff there and it's not any of my business -- it's not my stuff," Joos said.
During his closing statements, Kelleher again showed pictures of the guns as they had been placed before they were taken by ATF officials.
There was one gun at the front door and two at the back door to the residence or office in the pictures. ATF officials said both were loaded, as were nine other guns found in the building.
Kelleher said the fact that Joos was one of the few key-holders to that building meant that he was in possession of guns under the law.
Joos had been convicted of two prior felonies -- one was unlawful use of a weapon and the other was driving without a license, which was elevated to a felony after multiple offenses.
Joos said both were wrongful convictions, adding that he was in the process of filing federal appeals -- because he had used all of his state appeals -- when he was arrested.
Joos is also expected to appeal this case.
Springfield jews-Liar -- Joos quickly convicted on weapons charges -- Jan 13, 10
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http://cpm.freehostia.com/forum/show...ted=1#post2991
http://www.originaldissent.com/forum...ed=1#post83657
http://cjcc-an.blogspot.com/2010/01/...s-quickly.html
http://www.pastorlindstedt.org/blog/?p=842
Originally posted by Springfield jews-liar
Joos was found guilty of being a felon in possession of firearms and a felon in possession of explosives. He faces a maximum of 20 years in federal prison and up to a $500,000 fine.
He was arrested June 25 during the execution of a search warrant on his 200-acre property in McDonald County.
Federal officials with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives had been investigating Joos after they discovered his connection with a pair of men who had bombed a diversity office in Scottsdale, Ariz.
Joos was the first person Dennis and Daniel Mahon, the bombers, called after placing the bomb addressed to the director of the diversity office in 1994. The director, a black male, and two others were injured in the blast. The Mahons are awaiting trial.
Joos took the stand as the defense's only witness on Tuesday, the second day of his trial.
He described his apocalyptic religious views and his time at the Air Force Academy as a classmate of Sullenberger, the now-famous pilot who landed a plane in the Hudson River.
Joos was calm until he was questioned by U.S. district attorney James Kelleher.
When asked if he thought he still had an IQ of 156, Joos said, "I've lost a few points, but not enough not to know what these bastards have been doing to me," referring to the federal government.
Joos said the government has been persecuting him because of his religious beliefs. "It's been 30 years of this, and I'm tired of this crap," he said.
Joos called himself a Christian Israelite and a Nazarite.
He denied being a white supremacist, despite his connections with the Mahons.
He said his Nazarite beliefs mean that he can't cut his hair or drink alcohol and has to wear certain clothes described in the Bible.
On Tuesday, Joos appeared in his clothing, which had fringes on the side seams. Joos had to appear in the jail's orange jumpsuit Monday because he didn't have his clothes.
When asked to swear in before his testimony, he said he could not because biblical law prevented him from swearing. The word "affirm" was used instead.
Kelleher said it was the government's opinion that Joos' religious views are a front.
"Maybe you noticed Mr. Joos couldn't swear, but 15 minutes later he called the government a bunch of bastards," he said during his closing arguments. "The church is a way Mr. Joos gets to do what he wants."
Joos later clarified that biblical law did not allow him to swear, but did not say anything against cussing.
His attorney, Darryl Johnson, acknowledged that Joos' religious beliefs might be bizarre to some.
"You might not like Bob's demeanor, Bob's dress, Bob's hair -- I don't like Bob's hair, it kept getting in my way during this trial," Johnson said during his closing statements. "You might not like his religious beliefs -- he's very devout -- but you cannot convict on religion."
Joos spent most of his testimony refuting what an undercover agent with the ATF had testified.
Tristan Moreland, or Jimmy as Joos knew him, was undercover as a weapons dealer who was interested in Joos' compound.
Joos said he was trying to recruit for the church.
Moreland testified on Monday that the two, along with another uncover agent and a civilian informant, talked about guns and explosives.
Joos said he gave Moreland bomb-making instructions so that he could later turn Moreland in if the bomb was detonated.
Agents testified in court they found 15 guns, mostly long hunting rifles, more than 19,000 round of ammunition and various bomb-making materials on the compound.
"We're talking about the amount of ammunition you might find in Bass Pro's showroom," Kelleher said.
All of the guns and ammunition were found in a building the prosecution referred to as the residence, but Joos said was part church office and part storage area.
"People store their stuff there and it's not any of my business -- it's not my stuff," Joos said.
During his closing statements, Kelleher again showed pictures of the guns as they had been placed before they were taken by ATF officials.
There was one gun at the front door and two at the back door to the residence or office in the pictures. ATF officials said both were loaded, as were nine other guns found in the building.
Kelleher said the fact that Joos was one of the few key-holders to that building meant that he was in possession of guns under the law.
Joos had been convicted of two prior felonies -- one was unlawful use of a weapon and the other was driving without a license, which was elevated to a felony after multiple offenses.
Joos said both were wrongful convictions, adding that he was in the process of filing federal appeals -- because he had used all of his state appeals -- when he was arrested.
Joos is also expected to appeal this case.
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