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    Sandy Hook parents of two slain children win defamation case against Alex Jones in Texas

    Rob Ryser
    Oct. 1, 2021 Updated: Oct. 1, 2021 4:42 p.m.

    NEWTOWN - The parents of two first-graders slain in the Sandy Hook massacre have won a defamation lawsuit in Texas against conspiracy extremist and Infowars host Alex Jones.

    Scarlett Lewis, the mother of Jesse Lewis, and Lenny Pozner and Veronique De La Rosa, the parents of Noah Pozner, will have their cases heard by a jury to determine damages.

    “We believe the court hit this nail on the head when it considered Alex Jones’ and Infowars’ “bad faith approach to this litigation,” Mr. Jones’ “public threats,” and Jones’ “professed belief that these proceedings are show trials,” said one of the parents’ attorneys, Bill Odgen, in a prepared statement. “This day has been a long time coming, and we are not surprised by the court’s rulings.”

    The parents, who each sued Jones for more than $1 million for claiming, among other things, that the 2012 slaying of 26 first-graders and educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School was “staged,” “synthetic,” “manufactured,” “a giant hoax” and “completely fake with actors,” had been battling with Jones in Travis County District Court for pretrial documents he had been ordered to turn over to them.

    After warnings and sanctions, Judge Maya Guerra Gamble ruled on Monday that Jones was in default.

    “The court finds that (Jones’) discovery conduct in this case is the result of flagrant bad faith and callous disregard for the responsibilities of discovery under the rules,” Gamble wrote in her order.

    Two other defamation lawsuits filed by the father of Jesse Lewis, Neil Heslin, are pending in Gamble’s Texas court. Heslin has also asked the judge to find Jones in default of his obligations to turn over pretrial documents.

    The parents’ attorney Odgen said the focus now shifts to “how much damage was caused.”

    “Because (the parents) have now been granted relief, and Alex Jones and Infowars are now liable for their damages…each case will be presented to a Travis County, Texas jury to quantify the damages,” Odgen said. “My clients have and continue to endure (Jones’) 5-year campaign of repulsive lies.”

    Jones and his attorney Norm Pattis disagreed, saying they are “determined to see that these cases are heard on the merits.”

    “Nothing less than the fundamental right to speak freely is at stake in these cases,” Jones and Pattis said in a statement posted on the Infowars site. “It is not overstatement to say the First Amendment was crucified today.”

    The defamation cases in Texas are separate from two defamation lawsuits filed against Jones in Connecticut Superior Court by eight families who lost loved ones in the Sandy Hook massacre and an FBI agent, where the Judge Barbara Bellis has also threatened default against Jones if he doesn’t comply with discovery orders.

    In Texas, the judge ruled that Jones’ “persistent discovery abuses” were part of a pattern that was evident in the Connecticut lawsuits.

    “[T]his court has also considered (Jones’) general bad faith approach to litigation, Mr. Jones’ public threats, and Mr. Jones’ professed belief that these proceedings are “show trials,” Gamble ruled. 203-731-3342 203-731-3342

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  • #2
    "Lawfare" is merely legalized "civil warfare" before the Dying ZOG korts

    "Lawfare" is merely legalized "civil warfare" before the Dying ZOG korts

    Actually "lawfare" is part and parcel of ZOG/Babylon destroying White "Supremacism." Bryan Reo is on the Board of Directors of the Foundation for the Market Place of Ideas which has Richard Spencer, Mike Enoch, and James Edwards and Thom Robb's lawyer son as members as FBI ZOGbots:


    Bryan Reo won a $105,400 judgment before a Lake County Ohio non-white and gliberal whigger jury on 26 June 2019. Then filed and obtained a summary judgment on four more cases when I foolishly removed them up to the federal level without a jury trial and for the sum totalling $2.75 million for making fun of Bryan Reo, his Brazilian wife, and father.

    Pastor Lindstedt transferred his South Dakota inheritance to his sister on Oct. 25, 2019. Bryan Reo's antifa lawyer stole legal files from the corrupt law firm usd by his sister and after much legal maneuvering got this Stanley County judge Bridget Mayer to rule the transfer "fraudulent" even though I never told her a thing about Bryan Reo.

    In short, "lawfare" is nothing more than "legal" civil warfare. For my part Aryan Nations has long since 13 June 2016 advocating "chernoylizing" the North Perry Nuclear Power Plant where because of Pastor Lindstedt got Bryan Reo fired as well as liquidating the lawyers and judges of Ohio, South Dakota and the ZOGland.

    I like reading your articles Zman, but due to the impending Collapse / Great Tribulation they are largely beside the point. Nothing will improve until 80% of the ZOGland is dead and The Ten Thousand Warlords rule in local theocratic military dictatorships over 10-30 million surviving ex-whiggers.

    Hail Victory !!!

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    • #3
      Alex Jones Held Liable in Sandy Hook Defamation Cases

      Alex Jones Held Liable in Sandy Hook Defamation Cases

      Default judgment by Texas district court comes after Infowars host and right-wing provocateur failed to follow court-ordered requests

      By Jennifer Calfas
      Oct. 1, 2021 12:56 pm ET

      Alex Jones, the radio host and right-wing provocateur, will be financially responsible for damages to parents of two children who were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012, a Texas judge ruled this week.

      Travis County District Judge Maya Guerra Gamble issued three default judgments against Mr. Jones Monday after the Infowars host failed to follow court-ordered requests for documents and information in three defamation cases over his claims the school shooting was a hoax, the rulings said.

      Judge Gamble said Mr. Jones had consistently shown “flagrant bad faith and callous disregard for the responsibilities of discovery under the rules” and cited public threats from the Infowars host.

      How much Mr. Jones owes the parents in damages will be determined either in a hearing or in a trial with a jury, said Bill Ogden, a partner at Farrar & Ball LLP who represented the plaintiffs in the three cases.

      “The court finally got tired of Alex Jones and Infowars and their attorneys not taking this seriously,” Mr. Ogden said in an interview Friday. “This has been the most egregious discovery abuse I’ve ever been a part of.”

      A statement from Mr. Jones and Norm Pattis, an attorney for Infowars, called the decisions stunning.

      “Nothing less than the fundamental right to speak freely is at stake in these cases,” they said in the statement, released Thursday night. An attorney representing Mr. Jones in the case didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment Friday.

      Mr. Jones frequently uses his platform to tout discredited conspiracy theories, most notably claiming as a hoax the December 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. In recent years, social-media companies like Facebook Inc. and Twitter Inc. banned Mr. Jones from their platforms.

      The judgments for the three cases were made public Thursday and Friday. Parents of two 6-year-old boys who were killed at Sandy Hook sued Mr. Jones in 2018 for defamation and intentional infliction of emotional distress, saying Mr. Jones repeatedly called the massacre a hoax or claimed it didn’t happen or was staged by the government. One of the lawsuits involved plaintiffs Leonard Pozner and Veronique De La Rosa, who lost their son Noah in the 2012 massacre. The second and third involved plaintiffs Scarlett Lewis and Neil Heslin, the parents of Jesse.

      The two boys were among 20 children and six educators killed in the mass shooting. Following the tragedy almost a decade ago, parents of the children killed on that day have been targeted by conspiracy theorists with threats, claims the attack never happened, or that the parents were lying about having children. The harassment and threats have forced parents to move multiple times, Mr. Ogden said.

      “It is a sigh of relief,” Mr. Ogden said of the rulings this week. “It was a five-year campaign of making them relive the most horrific experience a parent would ever have to do, which is bury a child.”


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      • #4
        How They Did It: Sandy Hook Families Gain Long-Awaited Legal Wins

        After early defeats in Congress, relatives of those lost in the 2012 shooting fought on, besting a renowned gun maker and an infamous conspiracy theorist.

        By Elizabeth Williamson
        Feb. 20, 2022Updated 4:48 p.m. ET

        The image stopped him cold. Josh Koskoff, a Connecticut lawyer, was scanning crime scene photos of the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting when he noticed “taped mags” on a classroom floor, two ammunition magazines crudely duct-taped together to speed reloading.

        The gunman had dropped them during his rampage that killed 20 first graders and six educators in Newtown, Conn.

        That photo was a “checkmate moment,” Mr. Koskoff said, in the novel legal strategy that ultimately resulted in the $73 million settlement last week for the families of nine Sandy Hook victims from insurers for Remington, the maker of the Bushmaster AR-15-style rifle used in the massacre. It was the largest payout so far in a mass-shooting-related case against a gun manufacturer.

        Bryan Reo and the ZOG sponsored antifa domestic terrorists of the Foundation for the MarketPlace of Ideas / ZOGbot Poverty [F]Law Center and the rest of the ZOG jewstice Departments running state-sponsored domestic terrorism false fronts are destroying through "civil lawfare" leading to civil warfare are using the corrupt ZOG korts to get whatever they want. In doing this civil lawfare they are destroying their precious CONstipation and Bill of Goods and thus making abrogation of these civic lies inevitable by the White population who will inevitably seek effective leadership which will lead to the destruction of theys' korts and their very lives.

        This "novel legal strategy" merely involves using the state and federal ZOG korts to do away with the First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, Eighth, Nineth and Tenth Amendments while hiding behind the Eleventh Amendment letting ZOG and ZOG's whore state daughters get away with theys' jewdickal shit.

        The settlement was also the latest in a half-dozen legal victories by the families that have renewed scrutiny of the gun industry and of the rising tide of misinformation that engulfed Sandy Hook. Left devastated nine years ago when the Senate failed to pass even modest gun control legislation after the massacre, the families have now won on two difficult fronts — against a gun manufacturer and against conspiracy theorists, including Alex Jones — through persistence, creative legal strategies and in the case of the conspiracists, the technological expertise of Lenny Pozner, a parent who foresaw the long-term danger of rampant social media falsehoods.

        “We started to talk about ‘There has to be a way to get something done,’” said David Wheeler, whose 6-year-old son, Ben, perished at Sandy Hook, recalling the days after their push for gun control failed in the Senate. He now senses that for the first time, “a lot of people believe we’ve changed things.”

        At the heart of the legal strategy against Remington was the families’ claim that the manufacturer had illegally marketed the military-style Bushmaster to troubled young men like the Sandy Hook gunman, Adam Lanza, 20. Remington said the families lacked proof the gunman ever saw its advertising before he killed himself inside the bullet-riddled school.

        Before the shooting, Mr. Lanza had spent hours a day playing Call of Duty, a video game in which players used the Bushmaster to wage war. Mr. Koskoff, the lawyer for the families, had played Call of Duty too, introduced to it by one of his sons — and he recognized the duct-taped magazines from a contemporaneous version of the game.

        “Once I saw that in that first-grade classroom, that was it for me,” Mr. Koskoff said last week. “Remington may not have known him, but they’d been courting him for years.”

        In a Connecticut defamation case the families brought against Mr. Jones, the Koskoff lawyers cited the same Connecticut trade practices law used in the Remington case, saying Infowars profited from broadcasting Sandy Hook falsehoods. Two defamation cases in Texas and one in Wisconsin employ a range of strategies. Nearly all the lawyers involved are parents themselves.

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        • #5
          Alex Jones must pay $4.1 million to Sandy Hook parents, jury rules

          By Brittany Shammas, Kim Bellware, Timothy Bella. Meryl Kornfield

          Updated August 4, 2022 at 9:38 p.m. EDT|Published August 4, 2022 at 6:02 p.m. EDT


          Infowars founder Alex Jones must pay $4.1 million in compensatory damages to the parents of a 6-year-old boy killed in the Sandy Hook mass shooting, an Austin jury announced Thursday, after the right-wing conspiracy theorist’s false claims that the deadliest elementary school shooting in U.S. history was a “giant hoax” created a “living hell” for the family.

          The decision means Jones, America’s foremost purveyor of outlandish conspiracy theories, could pay less than the $150 million sought by Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis, the parents of 6-year-old Jesse Lewis, for remarks nearly a decade ago after the massacre in Newtown, Conn., that killed 26 people, 20 of them young children.

          But it remains to be seen how much Jones, 48, might be ordered to pay in punitive damages. The jury is expected to return Friday to weigh that amount — a sum that could be considerably higher. While the damages awarded to Jesse’s parents Thursday acknowledge the suffering they endured, punitive damages can be levied to punish a defendant and prevent future abuse.

          “Punitive damages are the opportunity for the jurors to send a message,” said trial consultant Jill Huntley Taylor, who was not involved in the case.

          Shortly after the 2012 shooting, Jones falsely claimed that “no one died” at Sandy Hook and that the attack was “staged” and “manufactured” by gun-control advocates. The remarks not only outraged grieving parents but led to death threats and abuse from strangers. Heslin told the jury on Tuesday that Jones’s false claims had made his life a “living hell.”

          “Neil and Scarlett are thrilled with the result and look forward to putting Mr. Jones’s money to good use,” said Mark Bankston, a lawyer for the parents. “With punitive damages still to be decided and multiple additional defamation lawsuits pending, it is clear that Mr. Jones’s time on the American stage is finally coming to an end.”

          Thursday’s decision could hint at what financial repercussions Jones could face in other courts in the coming months. He was previously found by judges in Connecticut and Texas to be liable for damages in lawsuits stemming from his false claims that the shooting was a “false flag” operation carried out by “crisis actors.” Two other cases to determine damages are ongoing.

          The man once described by Roger Stone as maybe “the single most important voice in the alternative conservative media” has faced considerable fallout from the false statements. Though he eventually retracted his false claims on the shooting, Jones has been banned from major platforms such as Facebook, YouTube and Spotify. The parent company for his Infowars website filed for bankruptcy during the trial.

          Jones’s lawyers have said the legal battle against him is an assault on the First Amendment. But the parents’ legal team argued that his rhetoric was defamation, which isn’t protected speech. The defense asked the jury to award the plaintiffs $1 for each claim after contending Jones lost millions of dollars and followers when he was booted from social media platforms.

          In a video released after the decision, Jones called the verdict a “victory,” noting that the total Jesse’s parents received in compensatory damages was considerably less than they had demanded.

          “That’s more money than I or my company personally have, but we are going to work on trying to make restitution there,” he said.

          The jury’s decision comes one day after it was revealed in court that the legal team representing Jones inadvertently sent the contents of his cellphone to a lawyer representing the parents. The apparent blunder led attorney Bankston to accuse Jones of lying under oath when he testified that he did not have any text messages related to the Sandy Hook massacre.

          During the jury’s deliberations, Jones’s lawyers requested a mistrial and demanded that Bankston delete the phone data they had handed over, which the judge denied.

          How Alex Jones, conspiracy theorist extraordinaire, got Donald Trump’s ear

          Jones has seen his false claims and rants launched into the mainstream national dialogue in recent years, embraced by the likes of then-President Donald Trump and Joe Rogan, the popular podcast host. He has been previously ordered to pay tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees to families who have sued him. Nine families have sued him over the years.

          In default judgments against Jones and Infowars in October, District Judge Maya Guerra Gamble of Travis County, Tex., ruled that Jones did not comply with court orders to give information in a pair of 2018 lawsuits brought against him by the families of two children killed in the massacre. Jones repeatedly failed to hand over documents and evidence to the court supporting his damaging and erroneous claims.

          The 2018 lawsuits were filed by the parents of Jesse Lewis as well as Leonard Pozner and Veronique De La Rosa, who lost their 6-year-old son, Noah. Pozner and De La Rosa said they have faced emotional distress and have been harassed for years by Infowars fans who have followed Jones’s lead and falsely claimed that the shooting was staged.

          During her testimony, Scarlett Lewis spoke of her grief and lambasted Jones.

          Sandy Hook parents confront Alex Jones, say hoax claims created ‘living hell’

          “My son existed,” she said. “There’s records of Jesse’s birth.”

          Lewis stressed that she was not part of any “deep state” conspiracy theory.

          “I know you know that. That’s the problem … and you keep saying it, why? For money?” she said. Lewis added: “It seems so incredible to me that we have to do this — that we have to implore you … to get you to stop lying.”

          But perhaps the most dramatic moment in the contentious trial came Wednesday, when Bankston told Jones how his attorneys had “messed up and sent me an entire digital copy of your entire cellphone” containing previously undisclosed texts about the massacre and financial information about Infowars.

          “This is your Perry Mason moment,” Jones responded to Bankston, a reference to the fictional lawyer famed for his stunning 11th-hour courtroom reveals. “I gave them my phone.”

          After Bankston noted that Jones had testified under oath that he personally searched his cellphone for Sandy Hook text messages and was unable to find any, the attorney asked Jones: “You know what perjury is, right? I just want to make sure you know before we go any further.”

          Jones denied lying, saying, “I’m not a tech guy.”

          The trial in Austin, where Infowars is headquartered, had been delayed for months after the right-wing website and two other of Jones’s business entities filed for bankruptcy protection in April. At the halfway point of the trial, Reynal noted in court how Free Speech Systems, Jones’s media company, had filed for bankruptcy, highlighting yet another financial blow to the Infowars founder.

          Alex Jones’s media company files for bankruptcy during Sandy Hook trial

          Jones has also faced daily fines of $25,000 from a Connecticut judge for not showing up for court-ordered depositions in March, and previously blamed stress and cardiovascular effects from his coronavirus infection for missing depositions in the Connecticut trial last year.

          While Jones has claimed in court filings that he has a net worth of negative $20 million, attorneys for the Sandy Hook families have pointed to records showing that Jones’s Infowars store made more than $165 million between 2015 and 2018.On Friday, plaintiffs are expected to call an economist to the witness stand to testify about how much Jones and Free Speech Systems are worth.

          Avi Moshenberg, an attorney representing Sandy Hook parents in other cases against the radio host, said the verdict had “invigored” them.

          “Today was a strong first step in bringing Alex Jones and Free Speech Systems to justice,” he said. "But we’re not done.”

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          • #6
            Alex Jones Ordered to Pay $45.2 Million in Punitive Damages to Sandy Hook Parents

            Infowars founder was found to have defamed victims’ parents by repeatedly calling the 2012 mass shooting a hoax

            By Rob Copeland, Jonathan Randles, Keach Hagey
            Updated Aug. 5, 2022 7:35 pm ET



            Alex Jones was ordered by a jury to pay $45.2 million in punitive damages to the parents of a 6-year-old boy killed in the Sandy Hook school shooting, a judgment that recognizes that the popular conspiracy theorist went far beyond accepted norms in repeatedly calling the tragedy a hoax.

            The verdict follows a separate $4.1 million award granted by the same jury on Thursday for actual damages, or the harm suffered directly by the parents of the murdered child. The trial in Mr. Jones’s hometown is the first of several seeking damages for statements made after the shooting.

            Mr. Jones and others at Infowars regularly said on-air that the 2012 shooting in Newtown, Conn., which killed 20 first-graders and six adults, was staged by actors as part of a wide plot to promote gun control, among other left-leaning aims. The Sandy Hook parents testified that they received death threats following Mr. Jones’s broadcasts; one such phone message was played aloud for the jury during the trial.

            This week, Mr. Jones said under oath that he now believes the shooting was “100% real,” but also cast himself as a victim in his own right, saying that the attention paid to his rampant speculation on the incident had harmed his business.

            After the verdict was read, lawyers for Mr. Jones said they would appeal. They also said they would ask the court to reduce the sum under a Texas law capping punitive damages.

            The judge in the case, Maya Guerra Gamble, said she would entertain a motion to impose additional punishment against Mr. Jones and his lawyer for their courtroom conduct throughout the trial. Mr. Jones had to be frequently reminded by the judge to tell the truth while under oath.

            The judge also said she would not oppose efforts by law enforcement and the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol to obtain text messages and other communications from Mr. Jones’s phone that were turned over to the plaintiffs’ lawyers as part of the trial, saying that she didn’t think she could stand between the information and Congress.

            The total sum of penalties meted on Mr. Jones was far lower than the damages sought earlier by the Sandy Hook parents. The parents had sought $150 million in actual damages and nearly the same amount in punitive damages.

            But the Austin judgment is just the tip of Mr. Jones’s financial and legal woes. He faces two similar damages trials in coming months from other parents of Sandy Hook victims. In those cases, as in the Austin proceedings, Mr. Jones was found liable by default for defamation after, in an unusual move, he declined to mount any defense.

            An economist who testified Friday for the plaintiffs estimated Mr. Jones’s and Infowars’ parent company’s combined net worth at between $135 million and $270 million. Mr. Jones’s personal net worth is between $70 million and $140 million, the economist testified, a figure factoring in money that he has paid himself from Infowars’ parent company. In testimony on Wednesday, Mr. Jones said the company’s revenue was approximately $70 million last year.

            Infowars’ parent, Free Speech Systems LLC, filed for bankruptcy protection last week—the second time the platform has attempted to enter chapter 11 in recent months. Lawyers for Sandy Hook families have accused Mr. Jones of diverting money to protect the business from potential judgments, an accusation Mr. Jones’s lawyer denies.

            Still, Mr. Jones’s company has in recent years survived threats of expulsion from the mainstream.

            Major tech platforms like YouTube, Facebook, Apple and Spotify kicked his show off their services in 2018. But his business remained resilient despite the deplatforming, documents and testimony have revealed, thanks largely to its heavy reliance on the sale of nutritional supplements like Infowars Life Super Male Vitality.

            Free Speech Systems sold more than $52 million worth of products and nearly $6 million in advertising last year, according to a declaration by W. Marc Schwartz, Infowars’ chief restructuring officer, in Texas bankruptcy court last week.

            “He is a person of prodigious influence on the extreme far right—arguably the most influential person in modern history outside of Donald Trump himself—because he has been doing it for so long,” said Michael Edison Hayden, spokesman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, which studies extremist figures like Mr. Jones.

            Several years ago, Infowars made a shift in its business model that “completely transformed” the business, according to court documents: selling dietary supplements such as Infowars Life Brain Force Plus and InfoWars Life Liver Shield.

            To this day, supplement sales account for most of FSS revenue, the documents said.

            Despite the deplatforming, Mr. Jones’ business looks much the same today as it did a decade ago. As of July 15, 2022, it had 58 employees, and “The Alex Jones Show” continued to air over GCN on more than 100 radio stations, the documents said. Traffic to and the has held mostly steady since 2018, according to SimilarWeb, a web analytics firm, with monthly traffic generally fluctuating between about 8 million and 12 million monthly visits.

            Lawyers for Mr. Jones didn’t respond to requests for comment.

            The damages award capped off a lurid week-and-a-half trial in which Mr. Jones and his lawyer sparred with the plaintiffs and were repeatedly admonished by the judge for breaking the rules of the court. Mr. Jones skipped court for some days of the trial and instead went on his talk-radio show to criticize the proceedings and cast himself as the true victim. At one point, he suggested without evidence that the judge was linked to child abusers.

            Mr. Jones’s lawyer, Andino Reynal, made headlines of his own when he gave the middle finger to opposing counsel in the courtroom. On Wednesday, during the final moments of Mr. Jones’s cross-examination, the plaintiff’s lawyer said that Mr. Jones’s legal team had accidentally shared cellphone records that the noted conspiracy theorist had sworn under oath didn’t exist, raising the specter of perjury.

            Mr. Jones’s lawyers argued that his Sandy Hook programming represented just a fraction of his overall commentary over the years, and that it couldn't be directly linked to the harm imposed on the plaintiffs, parents Scarlett Lewis and Neil Heslin. Mr. Jones cast his yearslong diatribes on the school shooting as merely part of encouraging listeners to be skeptical of official narratives.

            “I never intentionally tried to hurt you,” Mr. Jones testified, addressing the plaintiffs. “I never even said your name until this case came to court. I didn’t even really know who you were.”

            Write to Rob Copeland at, Jonathan Randles at and Keach Hagey at
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            • #7
              Alex Jones ordered to pay $45.2 million more in punitive damages to Sandy Hook parents

              By Kim Bellware
              Timothy Bella
              Meena Venkataramanan

              Updated August 5, 2022 at 7:22 p.m. EDT|Published August 5, 2022 at 6:04 p.m. EDT

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              • #8
                Don’t Expect Alex Jones’s Comeuppance to Stop Lies

                His success has inspired a new generation of conspiracy theorists, who have learned how to stay away from legal trouble.


                Alex Jones outside the Travis County courthouse in Austin, Texas, this week.
                The jury in his defamation suit ordered him to pay more than $45.2 million in damages.


                If it hadn’t been so excruciatingly sad, Alex Jones’s defamation trial might have been cathartic.

                Mr. Jones, the supplement-slinging conspiracy theorist, was ordered to pay more than $45 million in damages to Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis, the parents of a 6-year-old who was murdered in the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. The jury’s verdict came after Mr. Jones was found liable for defaming Mr. Heslin and Ms. Lewis, whom for years he falsely accused of being crisis actors in a “false flag” operation plotted by the government.

                To the victims of Mr. Jones’s harassment campaigns, and to those who have followed his career for years, the verdict felt long overdue — a notorious internet villain finally facing real consequences for his actions. The families of the children killed at Sandy Hook, many of whom have waited years to see Mr. Jones pay for his lies, are no doubt relieved.

                But before we celebrate Mr. Jones’s comeuppance, we should acknowledge that the verdict against him is unlikely to put much of a dent in the phenomenon he represents: belligerent fabulists building profitable media empires with easily disprovable lies.

                Mr. Jones’s megaphone has shrunk in recent years — thanks, in part, to decisions by tech platforms like Facebook and Twitter to bar him from their services. But his reach is still substantial, and he has more influence than you might think.

                Court records showed that Mr. Jones’s Infowars store, which sells dubious performance-enhancing supplements and survival gear, made more than $165 million from 2015 to 2018. Despite his deplatforming, Mr. Jones still appears as a guest on popular podcasts and YouTube shows, and millions of Americans still look to him as, if not a reliable chronicler of current events, at least a wacky diversion. (And a wealthy one — an expert witness in the trial estimated the net worth of Mr. Jones and Free Speech Systems, his holding company, at somewhere between $135 million and $270 million.)

                In the coming weeks, Mr. Jones — a maestro of martyrdom — will no doubt spin his court defeat into hours of entertaining content, all of which will generate more attention, more subscribers, more money.

                But a bigger reason for caution is that, whether or not Mr. Jones remains personally enriched by his lies, his shtick is everywhere these days.

                You can see and hear Mr. Jones’s influence on Capitol Hill, where attention-seeking Republican politicians often sound like they’re auditioning for slots on Infowars. When Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, suggests that a mass shooting could have been orchestrated to persuade Republicans to support gun-control measures, as she did in a Facebook post about the July 4 shooting in Highland Park, Ill., she’s playing hits from Mr. Jones’s back catalog. Mr. Jones also played a role in fueling the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, in ways we are still learning about. (The House panel investigating the insurrection has asked for a copy of the text messages from Mr. Jones’s phone that were mistakenly sent to the lawyers representing the plaintiffs in his defamation case.)

                You can also see Mr. Jones’s influence in right-wing media. When Tucker Carlson stokes nativist fears on his Fox News show, or when a Newsmax host spins a bizarre conspiracy theory about an effort by Nancy Pelosi, the House speaker, to have Justice Brett Kavanaugh of the Supreme Court killed, it’s proof that Infowars’ DNA has entered the conservative bloodstream.

                Even outside politics, Mr. Jones’s choleric, wide-eyed style has influenced the way in which a new generation of conspiracy theorists looks for fame online.

                These creators don’t all rant about goblins and gay frogs, as Mr. Jones has. But they’re pulling from the same fact-free playbook. Some of them focus on softer subject matter — like the kooky wellness influencers who recently went viral for suggesting that Lyme disease is a “gift” caused by intergalactic space matter, or like Shane Dawson, a popular YouTube creator who has racked up hundreds of millions of views with conspiracy theory documentaries in which he credulously examines claims such as “Chuck E. Cheese reuses uneaten pizza” and “Wildfires are caused by directed energy weapons.”

                Certain elements of left-wing and centrist discourse also owe a debt to Mr. Jones. The “Red Scare” podcast, which is popular with an anti-establishment “post-left” crowd, has interviewed Mr. Jones and shares some overlapping interests. Much of the unhinged coverage and analysis of the legal battle between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, which dominated social media this summer, had a Jonesian tinge. Even Joe Rogan, the popular podcast host (who has hosted Mr. Jones on his show and has defended him as “hilarious” and “entertaining”), has borrowed some of the Infowars founder’s connect-the-dots paranoia in arguing, for example, that Covid-19 vaccines can alter your genes.

                It would be too simple to blame (or credit) Mr. Jones for inspiring the entire modern cranksphere. But it’s safe to say that many of today’s leading conspiracy theorists have found the same profitable sweet spot of lies and entertainment value. It’s also probable that we’ve become desensitized to conspiracy theories, and many of the outrageous falsehoods that once got Mr. Jones into trouble — such as the allegations about Sandy Hook parents that were at the center of his defamation trial — would sound less shocking if uttered today.

                Other conspiracy theorists are less likely than Mr. Jones to end up in court, in part because they’ve learned from his mistakes. Instead of straightforwardly accusing the families of mass-shooting victims of making it all up, they adopt a na

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                • #9
                  Ford to Pay $1.7 Billion Because People Die If They Roll an F-250


                  This is a very big truck, inherently top-heavy

                  Whose fault is it if you roll your truck?

                  The American court system is totally out of control. They are just applying the Alex Jones trial logic to everything.

                  Wall Street Journal:

                  Ford Motor Co. is facing a potential $1.7 billion in punitive damages after a Georgia jury reached a verdict Friday in a case involving a 2014 rollover of a Ford F-250 pickup truck that left two people dead.

                  The Gwinnett County jury determined that damages should be imposed on Ford for selling 5.2 million Super Duty trucks with what plaintiffs’ attorneys said were dangerously weak roofs that could crush passengers in a rollover accident, according to James Butler, a lawyer representing the plaintiffs in the case.
                  .No one who flips a truck has a reasonable expectation of surviving, unless the truck is advertised to be capable of rolling, like for example a Jeep. The F-250 is simply too heavy for really any roof to be able to survive a flip, so if you’re too fat or too tall to get pushed onto the floor, you’re definitely going to die, and it’s not Ford’s fault.

                  This ruling is so silly that it seems like they are putting out this ruling just to harm the court system, to make it more ridiculous and unfair.

                  Far from trying to maintain order, the US government appears hellbent on destroying order in the country.

                  The easiest way for people to lose all faith in the government, and to feel like there is no reason to follow the law, is to make it clear that the court system is completely corrupt, and you have no chance of getting fair treatment by the law.


                  No one could possibly trust the US legal system for anything at this point, and there is no way to fix it. Like, no mechanism exists to fix a totally corrupt court system, other than revolution.

                  It’s part of why the Founding Fathers wrote all that stuff about how people were going to have to eventually violently overthrow the government.

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